https://mappinglandtheft.ca/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3A3.5Talk:3.5 - Revision history2026-08-01T18:14:20ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.46.0https://mappinglandtheft.ca/index.php?title=Talk:3.5&diff=758&oldid=prevPArteaga: /* polygon created */ new section2023-03-28T14:50:31Z<p><span class="autocomment">polygon created: </span> new section</p>
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== Polygon notes ==<br />
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Found polygon on nativeland.ca<br />
but my understanding of the description doesn't match/hard to double check<br />
ex. "Bound in front by bay of quite shore", Foresters Island resources, Fraser's captain John's island<br />
Bowens creek and Shannon river from LS are not on online map sources, maybe need to find an historic rivers of ontario/bay of quinte<br />
maybe Shannon river is Salmon river going through Shannonville?<br />
[https://books.google.ca/books?id=Hbg8AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=bowen%27s+creek+bay+of+quinte&source=bl&ots=hR50r1XGne&sig=ACfU3U1z-fCcJZCy1aZUYNSQSCjla5MLPg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjq6aeckuf1AhU0lYkEHWTSD40Q6AF6BAgSEAM#v=onepage&q=bowen's%20creek%20bay%20of%20quinte&f=false Fraser, Alexander. A History of Ontario: Its Resources and Development. Canada History Company, 1907.]<br />
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Pg. 146 has a letter written by Lord Dorchester to Sir John Johnson with a description of the polygon from the Land Surrenders doc description<br />
letter mentions John's island is part of the treaty, not mentioned in LS<br />
Johns Island is present day Foresters Island across from Desoronto<br />
[https://www.countylive.ca/tyendinaga-chief-seeks-discussion-to-officially-return-foresters-island-to-mohawks/ more on Foresters Island]<br />
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[https://www.countylive.ca/county-supports-bay-of-quinte-mohawks-effort-to-reclaim-foresters-island/ and more again]<br />
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Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory on Bay of quinte between Desoronto and Shannonville<br />
[https://mbq-tmt.org/history/ Mohawks on the Bay of Quinte website>History]<br />
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originally 92,700 acres, currently 18,000<br />
helpful webpage on the history of the treaty and area<br />
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-Patrick Arteaga, feb 5 2022<br />
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https://mbq-tmt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Newsletter-July-Issue-10-1993.pdf<br />
good resource, confirms river shannon is modern day Salmon River<br />
-march 9 2023<br />
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more sources, native-land.ca polygon seeming more correct<br />
especially after:<br />
[https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/crown-grant-to-the-mohawks-of-the-bay-of-quinte This article]<br />
[https://prezi.com/nf9dlpni3cjc/simcoe-deed-treaty-3-12/ interesting presentation]<br />
[https://realpeoples.media/canada-seeks-to-break-simcoe-deed-treaty-with-the-mohawks-of-the-six-nations/ THIS seems most correct]<br />
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== polygon created ==<br />
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[https://realpeoples.media/canada-seeks-to-break-simcoe-deed-treaty-with-the-mohawks-of-the-six-nations/]<br />
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polygon created based on the above resource, seems to account for the line in the treaty "bound in the front by the bay quinte", while agreeing with other dimensions from other resources as well. Adjusted to follow shoreline more closely.<br />
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Is Bowen's creek the small creek by the Desoronto cemetery? Should look into history of that little creek. <br />
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march 28-PA</div>PArteaga